Interview with Dan Bejar at AV Club:
The A.V. Club: When you record an album, do you start from scratch every time, or do you come into the project with some finished songs?
Dan Bejar: I always have words and vocal melodies. Usually a chord structure. In this case, there was no band, just in-house producers, and then people who trickled in down the road to shred over top of things. Some of the songs on Kaputt, I demoed. Crudely, but not without their charm. Others, I didn’t. I could sing them from beginning to end, but that was about it. No chords, no nothing. But those songs rejected structure. They turned out to be the poppiest ones. This is my first try at a pop record, by the way. I think it turned out pretty good. Though the elements were all taken from non-pop sources. Mostly film soundtracks I had in my head. Michael Mann or Alan Rudolph movies. The modal jazz classics. Certain ambient basics. I couldn’t play them on a guitar if you asked.
Generally, a Destroyer record begins traditionally, with a rock band laying down bed tracks and scratch tracks, some of which you keep, if you’re lucky. Your Blues was not like this; in fact, there’s a few similarities in the way things got started on that one and on this one. I’ve never just jammed and then tried to riff vocals over it, though every single Destroyer song starts from that kind of kernel. I knew I didn’t have it in me to figure out defined versions of the songs, in a way that you could play for a band. I also didn’t really want anyone to hear anyone else. I also wanted to be able to pull the rug out from any song at any given time and still be able to keep some of the work. So obviously the grid and MIDI played a big role. Songs like “Chinatown” benefited from this.
AVC: Do the songs you write dictate what kind of album it’s going to be, or do you have a mood and tone in mind before you come up with the songs?
DB: I usually have a mood and tone in mind, independent of what the songs might be able to bear. But that mood and tone generally gets betrayed. I don’t really care about writing anymore. I don’t think pop music or indie-rock or whatever you call all this is a suitable forum for it, so I gave up all that. I’m now strictly interested in singing.
AVC: It’s probably foolish to attempt to interpret lyrics, but there does seem to be a lot of imagery on Kaputt related to far-away places, both in terms of time and distance. Were you feeling especially elegiac when you wrote and recorded this album, or are any themes purely unconscious?
DB: For the most part, I have no idea what the lyrics of Kaputt pertain to, except for “Suicide Demo For Kara Walker.” Which is odd, because the writing seems really specific compared to all the other Destroyer albums, whose lyrics I happen to understand very well and can explain 110 percent and always have been able to. That being said, there is a colonial sound to the record, which maybe is playing off the lyrics. I was thinking a lot about dissolute officers and envoys with cushy posts, strung out on opium. By “a lot,” I mean I thought about that more than once, even if just as an audio reference. That’s what Roxy Music’s Avalon sounds like to me. I did have the instrumentation mapped out very strictly, and we really didn’t veer from it too much over the 20 months of working on this stuff on and off. I always had the players in mind.